tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post5497871785506270345..comments2024-03-06T05:40:30.339-05:00Comments on food network addict: Food Network Addict's Comments on Mark Bittman's "TV Cooking vs. Real Cooking" Piece in the New York TimesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-42420903519613087072009-04-25T13:21:00.000-04:002009-04-25T13:21:00.000-04:00want to know what makes Aida think she is qualifie...want to know what makes Aida think she is qualified to answer questions on TV, when she doesn't even know what type of chili she is using?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-48562383636165331742009-04-22T21:03:00.000-04:002009-04-22T21:03:00.000-04:00An inside the box person. You should stay there. ...An inside the box person. You should stay there. Such insight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-62730244130690271972009-04-16T12:46:00.000-04:002009-04-16T12:46:00.000-04:00TV is entertainment. If you are watching it purel...TV is entertainment. If you are watching it purely to learn how to cook, watch PBS or Good Eats. The Good Eats recipes actually work, as long as you follow the directions to a T. <br /><br />I think the problem with most people new to cooking is that they think they can work outside the box. Don't work outside the box until you understand the inside of the box.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-11689273952794510462009-04-15T16:14:00.000-04:002009-04-15T16:14:00.000-04:00@ FoodieInDisguise (Perhaps a new show format much...@ FoodieInDisguise (Perhaps a new show format much like in the style of "24". Realtime cooking.) Didn't Sara Moulton do that a few years back? I could swear she had a show where she cooked in real time and made mistakes and the whole works. And it disappeared. Maybe if she ditched the chef's jacket and said something like yummo and e.v.o.o. a lot... Doh!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-69818741131195624812009-04-15T14:11:00.000-04:002009-04-15T14:11:00.000-04:00Jacob, you're right that since you don't cook and ...Jacob, you're right that since you don't cook and you're watching these shows simply for entertainment, then the whole time element doesn't matter. But you need to lighten up and stop worrying about Giada's boobs and emmys. Bittman cooks, and so do a lot of people who watch FN. Bittman makes an important point about some of these shows. When Ina mixes butter and sugar for five seconds and they're suddenly light and fluffy without saying something like "this will take 3 or 4 minutes," or when Giada whips cream in 15 seconds on the show without telling you how long it really takes, that is an issue. When food browns magically in 10 seconds? Give me a break. It wouldn't kill them to be a lot more careful about things like that. Why don't they tell us this meal took me X time to make? It takes Y time for this to chill in the fridge? I mixed the butter and sugar for Z minutes? Obviously, it's in the printed version of the recipe, but you could get a good idea for the time and then decide if you want the recipe if they'd spend two seconds giving you the information on TV.<br /><br />I also think it would be wonderful to see them make some "common mistakes" and then show you how to avoid or fix them. I loved it when Julia Child made mistakes and fixed them. You learn a whole lot more that way.<br /><br />Anonymous 10:54 am: I can make Rachael's meals in 30 minutes. If a professional chef can't do it, then you should eat somewhere else.TENnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-56467811863505394432009-04-15T13:46:00.000-04:002009-04-15T13:46:00.000-04:00I agree you CANNOT make a 30 minute meal. Tried ...I agree you CANNOT make a 30 minute meal. Tried and tried. Doesn't happen unless you open a can of soup and make a sandwich!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-66131746701913204302009-04-15T10:54:00.000-04:002009-04-15T10:54:00.000-04:00Hey Karen, if Rachael Ray tests her recipes to mak...Hey Karen, if Rachael Ray tests her recipes to make sure that they can be made in 30 minutes, how come no one, including professional chefs have been able to make a 30 minute meal in 30 minutes? Even starting with totally prepped ingredients, it still takes them an hour or two. Do you really think she can get everything done she claims to during those commercial breaks?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-44718478983050711712009-04-15T08:49:00.000-04:002009-04-15T08:49:00.000-04:00Good comment with the Giada's cleavage! It's funn...Good comment with the Giada's cleavage! It's funny and it's true. Let's be real here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-3654514295524675542009-04-15T00:51:00.000-04:002009-04-15T00:51:00.000-04:00I liked Bittman until his latest show with Mario a...I liked Bittman until his latest show with Mario and the jail bait Spanish girl he fawns over. What a dirt old man. I that cooking? Another real time annoying real time event is watching Giada make a dozen of anything. Watch her make the first, then the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, etc. we get the idea. (Bittman must love her show) Another thing Mr. Bittman should be looking out for is when "The New York Times" goes under (make that New York Real Times) he may be looking for a boring cooking show of his own! In all seriousness I like Bittman and his books and columns, but some times he should eat more and keep his mouth shut. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-39846968260061580872009-04-14T22:54:00.000-04:002009-04-14T22:54:00.000-04:00I thought Bittman's column was kind of silly. I'v...I thought Bittman's column was kind of silly. I've found that most of the recipes on the Food Network can be made at home, although maybe not in the time it takes to watch the TV show. (Rachael Ray has said that she tests her recipes to make sure they can be made in 30 minutes with no tricks.) I don't think anyone expects Iron Chef to be realistic, but I've made recipes from Giada, Ina and Giada and they've all turned out. (You might need a luxury budget to make any of the recipes from Barefoot Contessa, but they are reproducible.)Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11393219314496954561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-85390433113543374762009-04-14T22:10:00.000-04:002009-04-14T22:10:00.000-04:00Anon 6:30, you really thought they were able to pl...Anon 6:30, you really thought they were able to plan and execute all those dishes in an hour? Really? And all the exotic ingredients they ended up needing were just magically there? Kinda naive, aren't you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-35871248519386682522009-04-14T19:00:00.000-04:002009-04-14T19:00:00.000-04:00Anon 6:30, you may have been sucked in, but the re...Anon 6:30, you may have been sucked in, but the rest of us realize that Iron Chef is t.v. entertainment and not a reality show.<br /><br />J, Bittman went wrong in assuming that cooking shows have the intention of displaying reality too. They don't! Nor should they.<br /><br />All I want is the highlights, a few tips on cooking methods and techniques, and let me finish the rest on my own.<br /><br />I can't recall a time when I've EVER followed a recipe exactly to the measurement and cooking times described.<br /><br />Like the Pirates' Code of Parlay - it's more of a guideline than a code.alexlindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14500883134446106415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-44817972854470962382009-04-14T18:30:00.000-04:002009-04-14T18:30:00.000-04:00he's right. did you know that on Iron Chef the co...he's right. did you know that on Iron Chef the contestants BEFORE the show airs are given THREE possible secret ingredients to work and practice with??<br />secret ingredients MY ASS.....<br />what a rip.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-35009738432117223622009-04-14T17:28:00.000-04:002009-04-14T17:28:00.000-04:00I grew up with Graham Kerr, and the obligatory lis...I grew up with Graham Kerr, and the obligatory list of ingredients at the end, while home cooks hurriedly wrote the items down. Times have changed with the Internet, and so have the shows. Though I would love to see Ina say, Oh shit," as I often do when I goof up in the kitchen. :-)Prohomemaker.Comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17946953291821624790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-66374984883627017932009-04-14T17:10:00.000-04:002009-04-14T17:10:00.000-04:00Perhaps a new show format much like in the style o...Perhaps a new show format much like in the style of "24". Realtime cooking. <br /><br />Perhaps Mr. Bittman doesn't think that us viewers don't understand the concept of time. Could you imagine if all movies and tv shows were all realtime - there wouldn't be enough hours in the day!<br /><br />I like watching my shows and thru the magic of television the dish is done. I know that when I recreate that dish in my kitchen that it will take as long as it will take. <br /><br />Maybe like tv ratings systems, there should be a food council setup to put up required cooking times and technique listings in the lower left hand corner of the screen that way no one is fooled into thinking that making a stew only takes 3 minutes.FoodieInDisguisehttp://www.foodieindisguise.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-54877099324740541982009-04-14T17:00:00.000-04:002009-04-14T17:00:00.000-04:00Like you Jake, Bittman needs to fill space and per...Like you Jake, Bittman needs to fill space and perhaps today he was bit stretched. Maybe he is taking shots at FN, maybe not. <br /><br />His show on PBS probably has it's fair share of outtakes, but the overall product seems to flow quite smoothly.<br /><br />Cut him slack. His cookbook, "How to Cook Everything" is one of the better ones available and he didn't get to where he is now by being a doofus.Alec Smartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30368617.post-16735156511241557712009-04-14T16:05:00.000-04:002009-04-14T16:05:00.000-04:00FN had "Cooking Live" w/Sara Mouton back in the da...FN had "Cooking Live" w/Sara Mouton back in the day. That was a good show!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com