Friday, May 22
VIDEO: Duff Goldman, Anthony Bourdain, Alice Waters @ Food for Thought
Last week, Duff Goldman, Anthony Bourdain, & Alice Waters took part in the Food for Thought forum in Connecticut.
Some interesting points Alice and Anthony bring up. Even Duff shows off some of his foodie knowledge. Check it out:
Some interesting points Alice and Anthony bring up. Even Duff shows off some of his foodie knowledge. Check it out:
Labels: Anthony Bourdain, duff goldman
posted by jacob @ 11:37 AM
12 Comments:
It was really great to hear all three and Bourdain is right people will take value but only at a certain price hence the "99 cent" chicken at Popeye's so, maybe this is a turning point where we increase wages and values so that chicken can be say "4.99" and people can have money to afford it.
Anthony Bourdain is the People's Chef on this panel, if only because Duff didn't say much. Anthony is 100% right in what he is trying to get Ms. Waters to understand, but perhaps he needs to tone down his language (for her, not me). Anthony, I love you. Ms. Waters - if you're so hot to feed all children 2 meals and a snack made with 100% Organic fu-fu foods, I say put you money whre your freakin' mouth is, sister.
Meals aren't just about where it comes from. Meals are about cost, availability and time. And sometimes you have to cut from one to make another.
Single vision people like her make me crazy.
Can someone tell me why Goldman was invited to this forum ?
First he looked like punk graffiti artist he is. He wowed the crowd with his knowledge of plague eradication and crop rotation. Guess he passed 7 th grade history and geography.
Wow Duff way to impress the establishment by dressing like a reprobate. I see a shopping trip to GAP in your future .
And aren't you a pastry chef ?
Never thought I'd say this, but Duff makes Guy looks like a fashion plate.
The way Bourdain's hands were twitching, I suspect he wanted to strangle Duff.
Alice has great ideas but lives in never never land. She really has no concept of life for the average person.
That was the one thing that disappointed me: The video ended before Bourdain could give his response to Waters' inquiry to free lunches in public school. My response would have been: Who is going to pay for it? Presumably, the government, because we are most likely talking about public schools. Which means the taxpayers. Most public education is funded through property taxes, particularly in states like New York, Florida, California and Texas. Sudden increases in property taxes in particular communities would result in sudden increases in emigration into other communities. This would lead to poorly performing real estate markets, instability and uncertainty, and the community as a whole would suffer. Idealism as a theory is a wonderful concept, but much like communism, in practice it is flawed and doomed to fail without pragmatic realism, because it fails to consider human element.
Alice -there is no free lunch. Tax payers would have to foot the bill.
I don't really know much about Waters, other than she's regarded as the closest thing to God in the culinary world. Apparently some Earth Mama type who's big on the "earth to table" idea. I was looking at Amazon.com's food book section a while back, and see that there was a book written about Chez Panisse (Waters' restaurant). Apparently some of the chefs who worked there noted that Waters was hardly in the kitchen and rarely put her mark on anything. Something tells me there could be a considerable amount of truth to that.
I may be mistaken on this point but I believe that organic farmers are not subsidized by the government the way that all the other farmers are. Therefore, the cost is higher. If organic farmers also received subsidies it should bring their prices down.
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To "L'il Ole Liz" -
You say Alice Waters should, um, oh what was it you so eloquently said - oh yeah: "put you money whre your freakin' mouth IS, sister."
Well, ignoring your typos, she is, "sister!" "Sister" in this context meaning, "beeyatch." See below:
http://www.organicconsumers.org/school/school-lunch.cfm
Single minded people who can't use Google make me crazy.
You've just been served. Deal with it.
Waters has spent plenty of time in the kitchen and has left her mark on many things.Perhaps she hasn't spent too much time there lately due to her other gigs, that is trying to show bureaucrats how to feed kids so they all don't get fat, get diabetes, and die.
She may have also been one of the first "celebrichefs" in California. I remember reading Gourmet mags reviews back in the early 80's. She and Jeremiah Tower were the most written about Bay area chefs.
I think many a FN chef would do their careers a favor if they followed the path that Alice Waters has. I think she cares deeply about kids.
Duff doesn't deserve to breath the same air as Bourdain. I don't get the fanship of his cakes at all - I am sure that he spent loads of time with his Play-Doh as a child. Cakes should be about frostong and flavor - not what kind of a lego-like sculpture you can nail together.
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